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Bull's eye view: Vodacom Bulls vs. Waratahs


The Vodacom Bulls were a happy bunch on Monday at Loftus following their hard-fought 16-13 win over the Waratahs on Saturday but five of the players could not train with the squad due to injury.

The team doctor Tommie Smook is at this stage most concerned about flyhalf Derick Hougaard because he has an abscess in his thigh that got worse over the weekend. JP Nel, who injured his hand in the first quarter of the match will in all probability be fit for Friday's game against the Brumbies and so will the other guys who sat on the sideline on Monday - Bryan Habana, Pierre Spies and Akona Ndungane.

Habana played with a twisted ankle for most of the game, but since there were only two backline reserves on the bench he courageously stayed on the field because at the time of his injury Nel was already replaced by Hougaard.

Spies had a sonar on his shoulder but Dr Smook believes he will rehabilitate in time for the Brumbies match and Ndungane is struggling with a niggle and he too will hopefully recover before Friday.

The Bulls are desperate to stay on the winning track and they looked like a rejuvenated team as they went through their drills on Monday night after they surprised the side from Sydney which has won eight of their previous ten encounters.

This is what the coaches said about the victory over the 'Tahs.

COACHES' VIEW:

Frans Ludeke (head coach):

"We did not adapt quickly enough to the conditions in the first few minutes but I think after they scored their try, we did well to adjust our tactics. We were superior in the kicking battle and we did great work in the lineouts. They could not get going from the lineouts and that was a key factor for us. I am very happy with the result and with hindsight I think we adjusted better than them."

John McFarland (defence coach):

John was just smiling after the victory and only said "we defended well!"

Pote Human (forward coach):

"Bakkies Botha and Wilhelm Steenkamp did a tremendous job in the lineouts. We poached 9 of their 26 lineouts and that had a massive impact of the game. The scrums were quite evenly contested but we won two of their balls and they never won one of ours. Werner Kruger is growing in every game at tighthead and that tackle he made saved a definite try. Due to the wet conditions we could not play a lot of rugby, but under the circumstances I was very proud of our performance."

Pieter Rossouw (backline coach):

"What stood out for me was that we managed to win in rainy conditions because the Waratahs have played five games this year in similar weather and this was our first time this season that we had to play in the rain. In the first 15 minutes we played quite badly and almost conceded a second try but in the following 65 minutes we did what you need to do in wet weather. We turned them by well placed tactical kicks and our chasing lines from these kicks were exceptional. When we played with the forwards we kept the ball close and we refused to play in our own half."

Vlok Cilliers (kicking coach)

"Our tactical kicking was very good. Derick Hougaard kicked 21 times, Morné Steyn 14 and Francois Hougaard 4. We kept them under pressure from our kicks and for that reason they never could get going. Even when we did not kick such a great kick the pressure was still good and that meant they did not punish our "faults" that heavily. The times when we did not kick out we pressured them so much that they returned the ball with a bad kick and that gave us a few opportunities to counter attack."

Wynie Strydom (manager):

"This was an awfully good win! The Waratahs were playing for a home semi-final and therefore this match was a huge character test for us. They team showed that they were serious when they said they would like to finish with four victories and I would like to applaud them for the way they came out and took the Waratahs on."

AWARDS:

After every match the Vodacom Bulls hand out six awards for players who excelled in different areas of the game.

Bison (most cleans):
Bakkies Botha

Sniper: (most tackles):
Deon Stegmann

Hit-man: (Biggest tackle):
Werner Kruger – for his try saving tackle

Ant (best back):
Derick Hougaard

Workhorse (best performance by a forward):
Deon Stegmann

Bumble bee (manager's award):
Bryan Habana –
for playing with an ankle injury for more than an hour.



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1. Goed so Bulle.
Posted by Rustig (Centurion) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:31
2. Môre Blou Bulle, Bullinne en Bergbok.
Heerlike herfs oggend.
Posted by Bulletjie 1 (Bulle gaan Gaffel!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:36
3. More bulletjie! Ek haat winter!

Dit is donker as ek die huis verlaat en donker as ek by die huis kom! Sommer bollie!
Posted by Rissiepit (Gonubie) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:40
4. Hoekom het ons nie 'n foto met hierdie forum nie - of is dit net ek???
Posted by Rissiepit (Gonubie) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:40
5. Victor Matfield believes a number of elite Springboks could follow his lead and return to play in South Africa in the near future.

Matfield, who joined French second division club Toulon in December 2007, decided to take advantage of a release clause in his contract that came into effect after six months, and rejoin the Bulls. Matfield was one of six World Cup Springboks to take up lucrative European offers after the showpiece event in France in 2007.

Matfield, speaking to keo.co.za from Toulon, said his decision to return to South Africa was heavily influenced by his view that his chances of playing for the Springboks would improve significantly if he was “in the system”. He added that in his discussions with other Springboks it had become clear that many now hold similar views.

“I spoke to Percy [Montgomery] recently and he said he was very keen to come back to South Africa at some stage in the near future. He definitely still wants to play for the Boks,” Matfield said, citing just one such example.

“There are a couple of other guys from the World Cup squad who are in the same situation because they feel it would best serve their chances of playing for the Boks. But that’s a decision they’ll make when the time is right for them. I realised shortly after I got here that I may have made the move a couple of years too early. I still had ambitions with the Bulls and the Springboks and thankfully I’ve got another chance to have a crack at achieving those now.

“I knew that the Bok selectors would be able to follow my progress on television if we gained promotion to the Top 14 [Toulon are currently three points clear at the top of the table with five matches remaining in their season] but it made sense for me to be playing within the South African structures where I could test myself against the best players and in what in my opinion is the best tournament in the world [the Super 14]. I also want to play a mentorship role to youngsters coming through at the Bulls. Other Boks realise the value in that and there are those who are contemplating their futures.”

Matfield said the Springboks’ form in 2008 will be a massive influence on whether elite Europe-based Springboks returned to South Africa. “Everyone wants to be part of a winning team and a winning culture, so if the Boks are going well I think it will be difficult for the guys who were part of that [World Cup] squad but miss out [in 2008] to just be content and stay in Europe.”

Matfield, who also had big money offers from Top 14 clubs Toulouse and Montpellier, as well as Premiership-bound Northampton, revealed that his former Bulls coach, Heyneke Meyer, had been influential in his decision to return to South Africa.

When Meyer applied for the job of Springbok coach he asked Matfield to play in South Africa if he got the job, arguing that it was critical that the country retained it’s best players - of which he said Matfield was the finest. Matfield agreed to the request, but when the South African Rugby Union pushed the election date back to January 9, Matfield could no longer honour his promise as he was contractually obligated to be in Toulon by the start of that month.

“Heyneke stills holds the view that the country’s best players should be playing in South Africa despite not having got the [Springbok] job,” Matfield said. “That played a big part in my decision because I respect him and his views a lot. He also spoke about family values, both with my immediate family and the Bulls family, and how it was important to look after their interests as well as mine. Toulouse was a very appealing option to me because of the style of rugby that they play and the fact that they would offer me the opportunity to play in the Heineken Cup, so I was really considering them seriously.

“But at the end of the day what Heyneke said made sense to me, and that made a difficult decision a little easier.”

The 30-year-old said he met with millionaire Toulon president Mourad Boudjellal last week to discuss his departure. Boudjellal was disappointed to lose him but said he supported whatever decision he made. Matfield said Boudjellal had not sought to keep him in Toulon with an improved contract offer, and also rejected reports that their relationship had been strained during his time at the club.

“I’ll leave on good terms. Those reports are completely false,” he said. “I even spoke to him at length about some of my ideas about how we could improve certain facets of the club and the team. This is a special team with special supporters and if they are promoted to the Top 14 a couple of elite players will join, which will be superb for the club and the city. I’ll do my best to get us there because I want to repay their loyalty in some way.”

The Bulls tied Matfield down to a three-year deal which, he said, will see him end his playing career in Pretoria. Asked why he had eliminated his chances of playing oversees again Matfield explained that he wanted security in his contract and also spoke of his desire to stay involved at the franchise in a coaching capacity once his contract expires.

Matfield was adamant that the union have the structures and calibre of players to be a force in Super Rugby and on the domestic scene in future.

“The fact that they are struggling was a big part of the reason why I wanted to go back,” he said in response to question of why he would return to a union who are besieged by a number of on and off field troubles. “I think I can play a part in turning that situation around.”

WAT N MENS
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:43
6. MOre Blou mense!!!
Geluk TB eb Gary Botha met julle nuwelinge!! Mag julle groot vreugde hê. Gary, ek hoop daai Bulletjie gaan `n BUL haker word!!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:46
7. Sien!!!!

Daar is moerse respek tussen Matfield en Heyneke! Kaptein en Coach was 'n potent kombinasie! Dit is hoekom die bulle so goed gevaar het.

En ek kan julle waarborg die res van die span het Heyneke net so gerespekteer!!!

Sien enige iemand daai soort respek teenoor Ludeke??? Nee - want hy is useless.
Posted by Rissiepit (Gonubie) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:46
8. Rissie, nee dis nie net jy nie hier is nie 'n fotie nie.
Posted by Bulletjie 1 (Bulle gaan Gaffel!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:47
9. En nou is Liefling daar.
Posted by Bulletjie 1 (Bulle gaan Gaffel!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:47
10. More almal. Ek se nogsteeds, al kom almal terug, sal Ludeke nogsteeds nie 'n goeie coach wees wat die respek van sy spelers het nie.
Posted by EnNouDieBlou (CC is Bulle s'n) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:51
11. Steve - word gou gesond jong! Ons het jou nodig op Loftus!!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:52
12. Moet sê ek was nie baie beindruk met Habana se spel Saterdag nie, maar noudat ek weet hy het met 'n enkelbesering vir meer as 'n uur gespeel, het ek sommer baie meer respek vir hom gekry!

Dankie Habana, jy is 'n ware Bul!!
Posted by Bulversie (Potchefstroom) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 07:53
13. Rissie
Jy was gister stil, het jy hard gewerk?
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:06
14. Superrugby se drie manne sê darem hulle dink die Bulle gaan die Vodacom Cup vat. NOU DIE BLOU!!!!!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:07
15. Goeters. Daar's nie eers n kwessie nie. Hulle kan die beker maar net sowel nou al vir die bulle gee.
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:11
16. Môre almal
Kom ons hoop die beserings is nie te ernstig nie en dat daar nog ouens is soos Matfield wat passievol is oor die blou trui!!!
Posted by lieflingaanhanger_pe ((nou hougaard aanhanger)) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:16
17. Nie so haastig nie, die wedstryd moet nog gespeel word.
Posted by Rustig (Centurion) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:23
18. Die bulle en die wp het die beste rugby in die vcc gespeel. En toe pak die wp n haai uit en choke in die semi's teen vrystaat. Die bulle is die die beste span by verre in die final
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:26
19. MORE BLOU KAMPIOENE!! EN PROVINCE!
Posted by BLOU_RIL (SHARKS="Stupid"=Whiners!!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:42
20. WAAR WAS DIE BULLS VIEW IN DIE DONKER DAE?
Posted by BLOU_RIL (SHARKS="Stupid"=Whiners!!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 08:46
21. More BLOUGETROUES

Disa, as daai storie waar is, hoop ek Matfield het nou finaal sy mind opgemaak. Hoop nie hy pull ook later n Bakkies op ons nie.Ons het hom nodig en hy weet dit.
Posted by KaapseBLOUE (Cape Town) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:03
22. To all my Bull friends - Walla - I told you so! The bulls will rise and be a force in SA rugby again - remember - I am proud of you achievements. Oh I also see Stegman won my award! Mmmm. Now humble the Brumbies please!!!
Posted by WPSniper (Pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:17
23. you = your
Posted by WPSniper (Pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:18
24. Kaapse Bloue. As ek dinge so kyk lyk dit my hy het die bulle net so nodig
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:36
25. Dankie Sniper.
Dis hoog tyd dat die ouens begin vinger trek. Ons kan ten minste nog 10 punte kry. Dit sal ons darem meer respectable laat lyk op die log.

Hoekom is die CHOKERS so onsigbaar op die blog? Is hulle dalk skaam oor iets, of wat praat ek? Dink ons moet so bietjie gaan stir daar op hulle site.
Posted by KaapseBLOUE (Cape Town) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:39
26. Ja wat, Disa

Geld wat krom is, praat kliphard deesdae. Maar ons bly lief vir hom, hy kan enige tyd huistoe kom.
Posted by KaapseBLOUE (Cape Town) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:42
27. more almal. kaapse disa 18. dis waar die wp se vcc cup het ok gespeel tot hul moes verdedig teen die vrystaat. min van die ander spanne het hul verdediging getoets. ongelukkig het ek dit sien kom en voorspel. baie van daai spelers sal nie maties se eerste span haal nie. maar dit is maar soos dit is. dit is een van die redes hoekom van wp se jonges na ander unies uitwyk.
Posted by baby bull (garsfontein) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:56
28. baie geluk bulle, julle het mooi teen die waratahs gespeel in die omstandighede
Posted by Streeptrui (Bulls 2008 S14 chokers) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:07
29. ek is sooooo bly victor is terug. ons het hom nodig. Hy is ongelooflike strateeg en baie skerp, en as die ouens dink Rassie is 'n derduiwel gaan ons nog in die toekoms verbaas staan oor Victor Matfield as 'n moontlike coach.

waaroor ek net verlig is, is dat ons span weer opgestaan het uit die as uit. die commitment is terug, en hoewel 10e nie is wat enige bull supporter wou gehad het nie, kan ek met selfvetroue sê dat ons verseker instaat is om enige span te klop wat in die top 4 is. Ons het immers 2 van hulle gebeat hierdie seisoen. TEN MINSTE HET ONS DIE WP OP HUL MOERE GEGEE MET RASSIE EN AL VIR DIE 4E JAAR IN 'n RY.

en ek voel ewe opgewonde as ek na die youngsters in die vodacom beker kyk. ek hoop die coaching staff gaan vir Nico serfontein minstens betrek.

Posted by mosselbaaibul (mossel Bay) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:13
30. Hello julle - ek probeer so nou en dan inloer maar is verskriklik besig. Ek kan nie glo dat 3 dae van die werk so groot verskil maak nie.

Streeptrui - geluk met julle oorwinning oook - ons hou duimvas vir 'n plek in die semi's vir julle!

Geniet die dag mense.
Posted by Rissiepit (Gonubie) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:26
31. Hartlike goeie more Bulle !!!!
Posted by ASSKICKER (Die BUL is terug !!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:42
32. Bakkies Botha exclusive
In yet another worldwide exclusive, iafrica.com's Dan Nicholl spoke to Bakkies Botha about why he is so determined to move to France...

Dan Nicholl: It's obviously been a difficult time for you, Bakkies...

Bakkies Botha: It has, Dan. I really didn't want it come to this - courts, lawyers, legal action. It's been emotionally draining, I'm not sleeping, and time and again I just burst into tears for no apparent reason. But I'm determined to leave and get to France, and this is the only route left open to me.

Dan: Why are you so determined to go? Is it more to get out of Pretoria, or to get to France?

Bakkies: Both, to be honest. Last year's World Cup was a catalytic experience for me, Dan. Walking down streets in the morning, stopping at a café for coffee and a pain au chocolat, dropping in at a gallery and discovering a surrealist retrospective or an undiscovered young impressionist - Gürthro and I had some magical moments exploring the culture between matches, and I'm absolutely hooked on all things Gallic.

Dan: But you're also keen to leave Loftus...

Bakkies: Don't get me wrong here, Dan - I love Pretoria, the people, the place. And I've been part of an incredibly special team. But it's just all become too much, too one-dimensional. I'm sick of team braais after every game - how about a sushi evening, or a fondue with a couple of bottles of lightly-wooded chardonnay? I absolutely hate 7de Laan, but after every single practice, it's off to the team room, and an excruciating half-hour with SABC2. And all Derick has to do during a game is tie his shoelaces, and they start playing Liefling; I absolutely hate that wretched song. I just can't take it anymore - I need to get out, and Toulon is where I want to be.

Dan: Do you think your team-mates will understand your feelings?

Bakkies: I hope so, Dan, but I'm not sure. To be honest, most of the guys aren't very good about talking about their feelings. I've tried a couple of times on pre-season camps to get everyone together, and speak openly about love, fear, hope, the important things in life. A few candles, some incense sticks, a little Café del Mar playing quietly in the background. But no one except Gürthro ever makes the effort; in minutes they're all talking about cars, or women, or hunting, which I absolutely abhor. Senseless killing - brings me to the verge of tears just thinking about it.

Dan: So there's no way back to the Bulls, then?

Bakkies: I don't think so, Dan. Last year I tried to get the guys to do something different for pre-season team-building - take in a festival, go to the theatre, maybe put on a musical as a squad. A little Gilbert and Sullivan, maybe even some Lloyd Webber; having seen Wynand tackle, he'd have been a perfect Phantom. But what did we end up doing? Monster truck racing, and a night at Pedrie's place watching old editions of Wrestlemania. With a braai. It's not me, Dan. I guess I'm just drifting away from them all.

Dan: So it's off to Toulon, then, if all goes according to plan. Some people have pointed out the irony of you moving to a club that Victor has just quit because of the levels of violence?

Bakkies: I thought that might come up. Look, I don't have an unblemished record, but it's never been more than passion for the game spilling over. And that's exactly what you see in France: passion. Sometimes it's a little excessive, granted, but I rather that than a game in which everyone isn't completely involved and dedicated.

Dan: Would you ever bite another player?

Bakkies: No. That was a terrible mistake. After I bit the Australian (Brendan Cannon), I was on rabies jabs, yellow fever medication and TB alert for nearly six months. In and out of hospital in case I'd contracted something from him. Thankfully I was okay - heaven knows what would have happened if I'd bitten someone like Matt Dunning or Owen Finegan - but I learnt a salient lesson.

Dan: Adieu, then, Monsieur Botha. Will we see you back in South Africa again?

Bakkies: Definitely. Gürthro is launching an anthology of poetry later this year, a collection of beautiful, poignant work on life in the front row. Robbie Kempson, CJ van der Linde and James Dalton have all contributed to it, so I'll be back for that. And I have my final cello exam in Pretoria in November, which would put me at orchestra level. But rugby? Non; je vais finir en France. C'est la vie pour moi maintenant. L'Afrique du Sud? Je l'ai aime, mais maintenant, je dois partir.

Dan Nicholl
Posted by STEGMAN 2008 (port elizabeth) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:53
33. Steggies - no offence, maar hierdie een is gister 3x op die vorige draad gepost. Dit is `n hoax. *GRIN*
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:48
34. hi goeters , ek het lank laas gepost , jammer ek het nie die vorige draad gelees nie , Dit lyk vir my ons gaan die Vodacom Cup die jaar vat.Die Bulle se diepte is darem vonders.
Posted by STEGMAN 2008 (port elizabeth) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:55
35. Superrugby se SB span: (Slegs SA spelers en nie-beseerdes is oorweeg)
Vir die van julle wat dalk nie gisteraand SUperrugby kon kyk nie. Hier is Kobus Wiese, Joost en Breyten se span. Paar interessante keuses *GRIN*

Brian Mujati
Schalk Brits
Beast
Andries Bekker
Johan Muller
Wikus van Heerden
Juan Smit
Ryan Kankowski
Rory Kockot
Peter Grant
Jean de Villiers
Gcobani Bobo
Conrad Jantjes
Bryan Habana
Frans Steyn
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:55
36. Yes Stegman, ek dink ook die VC beker staan op Loftus. Die manne moet egter weet, hulle sal 82 minute MOET SPEEL. Dit gaan nie maklik wees nie. Ons skuld die Cheaters `n goeie hou!!!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:56
37. Pierre en Matfield sal nie gaan nie.
Bryan sal gaan as hy die kans kry.
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:10
38. BB hoekom sal die stormers vir Juan en Spies wil koop? Dink jy hy wil van Luke Watson ontslae raak?
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:11
39. More Goeters, ek hoop nie ons word weer gevloek nie.
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:12
40. Gbs LMGA!!!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:12
41. Goeters, ek dink dis 'n baie goeie span daai. Almal gekies op hulle S14 vorm.
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:14
42. BB nr37. Dit klink bietjie dik vir n daalder. Ek dink Rassie sal dalk 1 of 2 Vrystaters kan lok, maar ek twyfel darem of hy al daai grrot name sal lok. As 'n stoere province supporter voel dit ook nie reg nie. As dinge so aangaan dan kan die rykste unie mos maar net die hele bokspan koop. Nee wat ek sal nie daarvan hou as dinge so werk nie...laat my hopeloos te veel dink aan Louis Luyt van die 90's
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:15
43. Wel, Matfield kan nêrens heen gaan nie, al wil hy ook. Sy KONTRAK by die Bulle sal dit nie toelaat nie.

Ek kan sien dat van die Cheetahs Rassie sal join in die Kaap. Die man het die talent om 'n 'new lease' op 'n 'dying career' te gee; kyk maar na Bobo, Jantjes, Watson en Januarie en wat nou selfs 'Bok' materiaal is!

Habana sal ook gaan, as hy die gap kry (sorry for the pun!). Spies, dis te betwyfel. Maar so het ons ook oor Bakkies gesê...
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:19
44. Joe
Ja `n ou kan nie stry nie, dit is die vorm spelers daai.
Ek is nie `n Bobo fan nie, maar die de Villers/Bobo kombinasie is op die stadium uitstekend. Wie ander in elk geval, Jacques Fourie is nie meer beseer nie, maar hy gaan nie gou terug wees op vorm nie.
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:19
45. My Bok senters is: Frans Steyn op 12, en Jean op 13
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:21
46. Mag Beast vir die Springbokke speel? Hoe werk daai reël.
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:22
47. bb 37. klink vir my ook bietjie oordadig. die wp maak al die laaste paar jare verliese en kan skaars hul eie spelers bekostig. waar kom al die geld nou skielik vandaan?
Posted by baby bull (garsfontein) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:23
48. Boere kan nou Viagra van belasting aftrek. Dit val onder pomptoerusting.
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:23
49. Ek sien die mense laaik nou almal die bobo/Jean kombinasie. Jean is goed ja en Bobo kan dink, maar hy is darem net te stadig. Waar dink julle sou die twee gewees het agter laasjaar se Stormers pak. Ek het nog altyd gese dat mens geneig is om agterspelers te overrate as hulle agter n goeie pak speel. Baie mense het al vir my gelag, maar ek rate Niel De Kock hoog vir die eenvoudige rede dat hy al die jare selfs agter n hopelose kaapse pak kon survive het
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:24
50. Goeie vraag, ek dink Zimmers moet bloot 'n ruk lank in SA bly om vir burgerskap te kwalifiseer. Is Chavhanga ook nie 'n ex-Zimmer nie? As jy eers hier gespeel het, kan jy natuurlik nie weer vir 'n ander Nasionale span speel nie (of dis hoe ek dit verstaan).
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:24
51. Ek sien die gewysigde ELV's word vanaf 1 Augustus wêreldwyd geimplementeer. Blykbaar is die onkantlyne by die skrums en lynstane weer soos met die ou reels, en die vryskoppe word weer strafskoppe. Die res soos die kwartgebied uitskopreel bly soos hy nou met die ELV's is.

Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:25
52. stem joe. frans binne, jean buite . bobo te stadig vir internasionale senter. jantjies agter.
Posted by baby bull (garsfontein) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:25
53. As hulle nog nie vir Zim op enige senior vlak verteenwoordig het nie en al 4 jaar hier is, kwalifiseer hulle vir burgerskap en mag hulle vir die bokke speel. In albei Mujati en chavanga se gavalle kan hulle dus speel
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:26
54. ja, Baby Bul! Speel asb nou net vir Steyn in een posisie, laat die mannetjie spesialiseer. Hy is die Ware Jakob! As ek soveel geld gehad het, het ek hom vir die Bulle gekoop
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:27
55. Hier's my bok agterlyn:FdPGSJHChvj
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:28
56. Skuus, daai lyk of ek die bok agterlyn vloek. Ek bedoel. Fdp, Grant, Steyn, Jean, Habana, Chavanga, Jantjes
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:30
57. Klink nie of PDV gaan sukkel om die politici gelukkig te hou nie!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:30
58. 36. die vcc kan ma loftus toe kom. onthou net die 0/ 20 s is uit vir die finaal.
baie geluk aan die bulletjies wat in die sa o/20 span ingesluit is. 11 bulle in daai span. nou net aangekondig.
Posted by baby bull (garsfontein) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:30
59. Ek neem Dick Muir kwalik oor wat hy doen met Steyn. Hy het basies sy seisoen klaar opgeneuk met die rondskuiwery. Ons het dan nou laasjaar gesien, sy posisie is binnesenter. Hy kort ondervinding, maar dis hoekom jy gametime moet kry.
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:33
60. My agterlyn vir die Bokke: F Hougaart, D Hougaart, Steyn, De Villiers, Habana, Ndukane(Die een van die Bulle), en op heelagter Pienaar.
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:34
61. Baby Bull, dit kan `n verskil maak aan die VC span!!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:34
62. GBS - Nee ek dink nie hulle moet nou vir klein Hougaardt vir die wolwe gooi nie. Daai outjie moet opgepas word, hy gaan `n groot Springbok word!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:36
63. terug tot steyn. onthou hy is nie n nataler nie. het op n stadium verstaan daar was juis ongelukkigheid omdat hul losskakels van buite koop en hom so rondskuif. sy eerste keuse is nog altyd om losskakel te speel. so wat ek se enigiemand het n prys.
Posted by baby bull (garsfontein) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:36
64. Ek wil my kop uitsteek en se dat Derrick H dalk net te stadig is vir internationale rugby. Nes Bobo.
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:38
65. Miskien nie Goeters maar sluit hom solank in die groep in sodat hy van die bank af kan speel. Hy kan die volgende springbokkaptein by die 2011 wereldbeker wees.
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:39
66. Hy sal 'n goeie koopie wees, ek dink net nie hy sal die Sharks so vinnig los nie. Ek verstaan hy het so 'n ruk terug 'n huis in in Durban gekoop, so ek dink dis langtermyn
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:39
67. 62.gelukkig het serfontein kop gehou en die o/20 s op die bank gehou. dit gaan nie so n groot verkil aan die beginspan maak nie , maar amper die hele bank is dan weg op die 0/20 oefenkamp.
Posted by baby bull (garsfontein) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:40
68. ja, ons het juis gisteraand daaroor gapraat, Derick is die stadigste agterlynspeler by die Bulle.
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:40
69. GBS, wow! Springbokkaptein by die volgende Wereldbeker? Hy sal dan maar 24 wees!!! Ek dink ons span die kar voor die perde...
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:42
70. Stem saam Joe. Victor gaan ons kaptein in 2011 wees
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:43
71. As jy goed genoeg is, is jy oud genoeg. Spelers soos Gaffie en nou ook Steyn en Pienaar was van nerens in die springbokspan ingesluit. Ongelukkig kry hulle nie n regverdige kans nie, aangesien hulle oral in die agterlyn moet speel. Kyk hoe skitter Gaffie nou oorsee.
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:43
72. Kan iemand al se wanneer die VC final is . Gister was dit nog die naweek en volgende naweek
Posted by KaapseBLOUE (Cape Town) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:45
73. Dit is volgende Vrydag 16 Mei op Loftus
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:46
74. Dankie Goeters(ek vat jou woord)
Posted by KaapseBLOUE (Cape Town) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:47
75. "as jy goed genoeg is, is jy oud genoeg"...dis 'n quote so uit Frans Ludeke se mond!! lol

Maar ek dink juis dis waar die probleem lê, hoe goed is Francois Hougaard nou werklik? Hy is nog nie regtig getoets op S14 vlak nie. Sy 2 opponente teen wie hy sover gespeel het, is nie van die brightste skrumskakels in die reeks nie. Ek glo hy is DEFINITIEF 'n sukses vir die toekoms, maar hy kort nog eers baie baie baie meer ervaring voordat ek hom in 'n Bokspan sal kies (veral as die kaptein)
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:50
76. AK
Vir wie skree ons Saterdag - Cheaters of Chokers??? *GRIN**
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:51
77. Joe teen 2001 sal hy al baie ervaring he, maar ek stem saam, hy kort op hierdie oomblik nog ervaring. Jy moet onthou dat ek met n blou bril my Springbokspan kies. Maak die BULLE almal Bokke!
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:53
78. 2001 =2011
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:54
79. Jammer vir die BUlle wat Springbok kandidate is, maar ek sê, de hel met SB rugby die jaar, ons soek die Curriebeker weer in Pretoria!!!!!
Posted by goeters (Nou vir die Currie Beker!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:55
80. Goeters ons sal hoogstens 4 bulle in die bokke span sien, so ons staan n goeie kans om die Curriebeker te wen. (Fourie, Wikus, Habana en Matfield) Bakkies tel nie want hy is teen daardie tyd dalk nie meer n Bul nie.
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:03
81. Ek stem Goeters....

Dit sal nou regtig my hart baie bly maak as die Currie Cup weer op Loftus staan die jaar....

Posted by blouBoerseun ( FL for presedent of Zim) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:10
82. BB ek dink nie jy moet n Cheeta speler soveel krediet gee nie. Hulle lyk nie vir my so slim nie. Baie dankie in elke geval vir jou berig. In die army het ons dit n rumour genoem.
Posted by Groot blou seun (pretoria) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:12
83. BB,

Ek is hier in Bloem, en hoe dit vir my klink gaan D Vermeulen Stormers toe....
Posted by blouBoerseun ( FL for presedent of Zim) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:16
84. Julle weet dat Olie Le Roux reeds by die Stormers aan gesluit het die week??

Posted by blouBoerseun ( FL for presedent of Zim) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:20
85. BB,

Ek stem saam.... laat die ou gaan.... daar is BAIE goeie VC manne wat aan die deur klop....

Posted by blouBoerseun ( FL for presedent of Zim) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:22
86. Sorry sorry sorry...
Weer terug !!!!

Goeters ek skreeu vir die Stormers...( Teen my geloof om vir daai Chokers (spoeg !!! ) te skreeu !!!! )
Posted by ASSKICKER (Die BUL is terug !!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:30
87. AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaag f@k.....
Goeters !!!!
Daai is my twee mees gehaate spanne wat teen mekaar gaan speel...
F@k die Tjieters en die Chokers !!!!

Ek skreeu vir die REF,TOUCH JUDGES,TMO !!!!
Posted by ASSKICKER (Die BUL is terug !!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:34
88. BB

NEVER !!!!
As daai klomp moegoes die laaste rugby span op aarde is sal ek liewers Bafana Bafana support !!!!
Posted by ASSKICKER (Die BUL is terug !!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:38
89. BB
Hy is soos Burger....OVERATED !!!!!
Hy moes 10 jaar terug al af getree het !!!!
Posted by ASSKICKER (Die BUL is terug !!!) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:40
90. nuwe draad! Fourie is weer kaptein?
Posted by Joe-ZA Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 13:42
91. skuus Asskicker. nr 95. Praat jy van Schalk Burger?
Posted by Kaapse Disa (Hartbeespoort) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 14:34
92. EK KAN NIE GLO DAT NA 1 WEN DINK DIE BULLE DAT HULLE WEER BEKER HOUERS IS NIE?
DIS SEKER DIE SWAKSTE KAMPIOENNE IN DIE GESKIEDENIS VAN SUPER RUGBY!!!!!
ASSKICKER MOET NA FRANS STEYN KYK ,DAN SAL HY SIEN WATS OVERATED,WHIP
Posted by Rassie se Kaap (durban) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 15:14
93. JY KAN NOU EERS DIE MENTALITEIT VAN VICTOR MATFIELD SIEN....
HOEKOM WIL HY TERUG KOM NA N LEE LOFTUS?
AL SY MAATJIES GAAN AL WEG WEES AS HY DAAR AAN KOM..hehehe
Posted by Rassie se Kaap (durban) Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 15:17