Tuks unstoppable as they ran in seven tries past Maties

Tuks unstoppable as they ran in seven tries past Maties

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FNB UP-Tuks sent a clear message to the rest of the FNB Varsity Cup presented by Steinhoff International teams when they recorded a comprehensive 53-8 over FNB Maties in Pretoria.
Tuks were unstoppable in all facets of the game as they ran in seven tries to remain unbeaten in the competition and establish themselves as the forerunners to lift the trophy this year.
The match got off to an expected fast start with Tuks asserting themselves early in the encounter by pegging Maties back inside their 22 for much of the opening five minutes. The Stellenbosch students settled nicely and gained the upperhand in the next five minutes but were unable to get any points on the board.
Tuks thought they scored in the 12th minute when Joshua Stander ran down a grubber and attempted to out-dive Craig Barry to the touchdown. However, Barry managed to get his hands wrapped around the ball to stop the try and concede a five-metre scrum. The home side would be rewarded in the 14th minute when Jannes Kirsten brushed off a defender before taking three more with him to get the first try of the match. The try went unconverted as Joshua Stander pulled his attempt.
Maties were on the board three minutes later when JP Lewis displayed his finishing prowess to score in the corner. He was hit by a viscous tackle two metres from the try line but remained composed to finish off a well-executed team try. Brandon Thomson made no mistake with the conversion to hand Maties an 8-5 lead.
The home side regained the lead in the 2st minute after a dominant rolling maul which allowed Wiaan Liebenberg to grab the try. Stander slotted his first kick of the match as Tuks held a 13-8 lead at the first Strategy Break. Tuks started to assert their dominance on the match and were rewarded in the 24th minute, after a patient build-up, when Reniel Hugo crashed over the try line. Stander added the extra points to extend the home side's lead to 21-8.
Tuks secured their bonus point in the 33rd minute when they set an unstoppable rolling maul which travelled about 12 metres for Rudolph Smith to dot the ball down. Stander's conversion extended the lead to 29-8. The home side continued to push for another try but were kept at-bay by a stellar Maties defence as the teams went into the halftime interval.
The home side emerged from the break and immediately scored their fifth try of the match when Dewald Human showed exceptional stepping skills and blistering speed to tear the Maties defenders apart in the 42nd minute. Stander added another conversion to extend Tuks' lead to 29 points.
Tuks were not done yet as they continued to put the visitor under all sorts of pressure. Maties defence were at sixes and sevens in the 50th minute when a well-executed backline move found Jermaine Kleinsmith on the left touchline and the wing made no mistake in adding the home side's sixth try. Stander added his fifth conversion to extend the lead to 45-8.
Maties failed to hold onto the ball long enough to launch a meaningful attack and found themselves even further behind in the 71st minute when Nqobisiswe Mxoli crashed over the line to bring up 50 points for the home side. Stander added the conversion as Tuks led 53-8 with eight minutes left in the match.
The remainder of the match was spent in Maties territory as Tuks pressed for an eighth try but it was not to be as they claimed a comfortable 45-point victory.
FNB Player that Rocks: Jannes Kirsten
Scorers:
For UP-Tuks:
Tries: Kirsten, Liebenberg, Hugo, Smith, Human, Kleinsmith, Mxoli
Cons: Stander 6
For Maties:
Try: Lewis
Con: Thomson
Teams:
FNB UP-Tuks: 15 Duncan Matthews, 14 Riaan Britz, 13 Ryan Nell, 12 Daniel Kriel, 11 Jermaine Kleinsmith, 10 Joshua Stander, 9 André Warner, 8 Rudolph Smith, 7 Jannes Kirsten, 6 Wiaan Liebenberg (captain), 5 Reniel Hugo, 4 Irné Herbst, 3 Andrew Beerwinkel, 2 Jaco Visagie, 1 Juan Schoeman.
Replacements: 16 Jan Enslin, 17 Nqobisiswe Mxoli, 18 Dennis Visser, 19 Clyde Davids, 20 Emile Temperman, 21 Dewald Human, 22 John Jackson, 23 Neethling Fouche.
FNB Maties: 15 Craig Barry, 14 Brandon Asher-Wood, 13 Christoff van Tonder, 12 Koos Loubser, 11 JP Lewis, 10 Brandon Thomson, 9 Jean Nel, 8 Kobus van Dyk, 7 Lungelo Chonco, 6 Beyers de Villiers, 5 Wilhelm van der Sluys (captain), 4 Ian Groenewald, 3 John-Hubert Meyer, 2 Marko Janse van Rensburg, 1 Niel Oelofse.
Replacements: 16 Neethling Gericke, 17 Wesley Adonis, 18 Janco Venter, 19 Justin Benn, 20 Bjorn Bernardo, 21 Ernst Stapelberg, 22 Kyle Leibrandt, 23 Jacobus van der Merwe.

Referees: Lourens van der Merwe, Jaco Kotze
Assistant referees: Local
TMO: Willie Vos

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Feb 24, 2015

(82) Tuks unstoppable as they ran in seven tries past Maties

  1. Daai pak vories was indrukwekkend. Ek wonder of die BBRU vir Pote Human plek het in hulle strukture. Indien nie beter hulle vir hom plek maak. Pote weet wat hy doen. Miskien moet hy sommer die BULLE coach......

    Ek dink hy en Robert du Preez sal 'n eienaardige maar awesome kombinasie wees.
  2. gravatar Nguni says:
    Wel ek moet self se ek het jare laas 'n wedstryd soos gisteraand gesien!! Man dit was mos nou rugby!! Skrums/Lynstane/Agterlyn bewegings... alles was tops klas!! Inteendeel ek dink Tukkies het die hele BBRU se naam gat gemaak!!

    Ek sal my kop 'n blok sit en sover gaan om te se - daai Tuks span sal ons magtige Bulls span ook 'n pakslae gee!!
  3. gravatar Bullebakkies says:
    Stem saam Nguni. Tuks sal op die oomblik Ludeke se slapgatte hard op hul dinges gee!

    Mens kan sien hbulle speel met passie en het vryheid om die situasie te speel!

    Dan Kriel en die loosies het gekook!!
  4. gravatar Bulperd says:
    Dan Kriel behoort in JJ se plek te speel as hy beseer is nie Jessie nie. Jessie is skitterent op heelagter maar soos ons almal weet sal Ludeke hom ook uit posisie speel. Tyd dat Frans Ludeke uit posisie gaan speel by die hek uit
  5. net weer 'n bevestiging dat ons wel die talent het in Pta, nie net onder die spelers nie maar ook afrigters.

    Nolis Marais en Pote sal 'n goeie afrigtingskorps uitmaak. Wie rig tuks se agterlyn af.

    Ek weet daar is 'n helse verskil tussen VC en SR, maar wat duidelik was is die ingesteldheid waarmee die Tuks gespeel het teenoor die ingesteldheid waarmee die bulle speel.
  6. gravatar Nguni says:
    100 % reg OLD BLUE EYES!!! Maar jy kon sien daar was 'n plan en elke speler het geweet wat van hom verwag word. En ek dink ook hulle het 'n leier wat se lyf op die spel sit en respek afdwing. Hoe Jono Ross laasjaar bo Wiaan gekies was sal seke ons slim afrigter vir ons eendag kan verduidelik!

  7. gravatar Eugene N says:
    Stem saam dat Tukkies die Bulle ten minste sal skrik maak indien nie klop nie en dit is net omdat hulle totale rugby speel met die regte spelers in hulle regte posisies.
    Die beste nuus uit die mediese verslag na die herstel van Marcelle van der Merwe is sekerlik dat Hencus van Wyk nie meer gelys word as beseer nie, dit beteken dat as ons agbare afrigter en wie ookal die span saam met hom kies net WAKKER word, dan kan ons darem twee vaskoppe in die 23 he.
    En moet nie nou die een persoon wat goed vertoon het laasweek nou op senter kies nie. Los hom op heelagter met Visser op die bank en kies 'n senter uit die groep uit soos Dries Swanepoel of Dan Kriel - Magtig man ander spanne bring nuwelinge in hulle spanne in en dit werk.
    Kies 'n slot op nommer 4 en speel Du Plessis van die bank af indien nodig, of glad nie as hy nie inpas nie.
    Kies Hougaard op 9 en speel 'n vleuel op vleuel. Dit is total oorbodig om 3 skrumskakels in 'n span te he.
    Kies spelers op vorm en wat ALLES GEE op die veld (met ander woorde as voorspeler bloei hy darem of is ten minste vuil na 40min) so heroorweeg Spies se outomatiese insluiting, Matfield dink in elk geval hy is kaptein -

    Hierdie goed verg nie bo-vermoende breinkrag nie en is nie nuwe konsepte nie, doen dit net reg!!!

    Die Sharks verwag, Frans Steyn, Willem Alberts, JP Pietersen en Beast Mtawarira terug volgende week, so as ons hulle gaan klop dan is dit hierdie week en nie op Kings Park later nie.
  8. gravatar nitronic says:
    nou maar ja laat ek ook my span insit. (twyfel of hulle sal wen, maar ten minste kan jonges ondervinding opdoen)

    15) J Kriel
    14) Ulengo (Kort meer kanse, niemand weet wat hy kan doen nie)
    13) Serfontein (Beter sokkies optrek)
    12) Dries (as hy reg is) anders D Kriel
    11) Basson
    10) Pollard
    9) Hougaard
    8) Hanro
    7) Lappies
    6) Smit
    5) Vic? Niemand anders?
    4) Janse van Rensburg
    3) Marcel
    2) Strauss
    1) Nyakane

    16) Dayan
    17) Callie?? Enige iemand anders
    18) Dean
    19) J Dup
    20) Spies
    21) Paige?? Niemand anders
    22) JLP
    23) JJ

    Nou die span sal nie sommer teen ervare spanne wen nie, maar ons probleem le in die spelers wat ons verloor het and as die paar youngsters goed deur kom kan dit werk.
  9. gravatar Franscois says:
    Kies die span soos volg as jj beseer is:

    Jessie
    Akona
    Jan
    Dan
    Basson
    Pollard
    Hougie
    Spies
    Lappies
    Hanro
    Hatting
    Jdup
    Marcel
    Adriaan
    Trevor

    Callie
    Dean
    Matfield
    Steggies
    Piet
    Jlp
    Ulengo
    Dyan
  10. gravatar Dries says:
    Ek was ook gisteraand in die Tuks Stadion en ek stem saam met die manne hierbo dat Pote Human so gou moontlik by die Bulls betrek moet word. maar dit sal sekerlik nie gebeur terwyl Ludeke daar is nie.

    Wie onthou nog die geskkiedenis van 2008? Pote was beskikbaar om Heyneke op te volg. Hy was op die Bulle se payroll! Toe kies hulle Frans van buite en daarna het die uittog begin. Eers is Pote Japan toe en twee jaar later het Nico Serfontein ook geloop toe hy verneem hy sal nie 'n kans kry om die Curriebekerspan af te rig nie.

    Net 'n ander opmerking oor gisteraand se Varsitybeker rugby: Dan Kriel het 'n duidelike standpunt gemaak om onder sy broer se skadu uit te kom. Hy is reg vir SuperRugby. Die ander man wat ook reg is vir SuperRugby is Irne Herbst. Dié man het al vir die Junior Bokke gespeel teen baie Nieu Seelanders wat nou deurkom in SuperRugby.

    Waarom kan Jan Serfontein reg wees vir toestrugby op 20, maar Herbst kan op 22 nie SuperRugby speel nie? Etsebeth is direk uit die Varsitybeker na SuperRugby, sonder om ooit Curriebekerrugby te speel. Herbst was verlede jaar deel van die Bulle se Curriebekerspan.

    Daardie twee slotte van Tukkies is besig om wasdom te bereik onder Pote se afrigting. Ek het in die verlede nie veel gedink van Reniel Hugo nie, maar die afgelope twee weke het hy gewys hy kan ook top rugby speel. Sy lynstaanwerk is baie goed. As kombinasie kan hierdie twee slotte dit nog vér bring.

    ONS HET REGTIG NIE MEER VIR OUBAAS MATFIELD NODIG NIE. Hy is deel van die verlede. Hou dit so, voor hy sy eie reputasie skade doen!!
  11. gravatar bluebull says:
    What last night just showed is not that all the Varsity Cup players will be outstanding internationals, but that a coach makes a huge difference. Pote has found his feet after struggling last season. The players know him better and they play like they enjoy it. Something that's gone fishing at the Bulls.

    Tuks is playing like all his sides: hard, fast, and with passion and commitment. Pote is making a point here.


  12. gravatar Blouboy says:
    Ek is nie 100% seker waar ek dit in 2014 gelees het nie, maar Dit is n feit dat Frans se kontrak klaarmaak einde 2015. Die "Chosen Ones" wat gaan oorneem is Victor en Fourie. Ek verstaan nie lekker almal se opgewondenheid oor Pote, Nico, John, Nick, Naas, Jimmy ensovoorts nie, ons weet mos waarvoor ons in is. Sover ek dit het het ou Vic en Fourie klaar die job, tensy ek heeltemal verkeerd gelees het?
  13. Ek het dit ook dat FL klaarmaak. (dankie tog) en dat Matfield geoormerk is om oor te neem. Ek weet dit is Matfield en FdP se droom om saam af te rig, maar weet nie of dit al volgende jaar sal gebeur nie.

    Die beste vir die 2 here sal wees om dalk volgende jaar die VC span af te rig vir so 2 jaar, dan Vodacom, CC en dan SR.

    Ons het in Nico Serfontein, Ashley Evert en Paul Anthony goeie en gesoute afrigters verloor wat deur die ranks gekom het.

    VIC en FdP is hero's, maar om sommer volgende jaar in te stap en uit die staanspoor die SR span af te rig kan van hulle zero's maak.
  14. gravatar Barry says:
    Pote Human was al by die Bulle afrigter en dit het nie gewerk nie. Kyk ook wat by die Griekwas gebeur toe hy daar was. Nie eers die Pumas wil hom as afrigter gebruik nie. Hy is reg waar hy is. Jammer Pote maar feite is feite, niks persoonliks nie.

    Ek vermoed dat HM die einde van die jaar as Springbokafrigter vervang gaan word en hy sal dan terug keer Bulle toe vir Super Rugby saam Matfield en du Preez met FL wat Currie Beker toe sal skuif saam ons geliefde Pine & Kie.

    Ek sê weer dat die Bulle se probleme nie net by afrigting lê nie, maar ook by elke speler wat daardie trui oor sy kop trek. Elke speler het sy eie taak en verantwoordelikheid op die veld in alle opsigte. Elke speler weet of hy goed genoeg en fiks is om te kan speel. Afrigters maak spankeuses op grond van huidige en historiese inligting en wanneer 'n speler gekies word gaan dit oor die speler se vermoeê om by die betrokke wedstrydplan te kan inpas.

    Kyk maar na die klein jong mannetjie wat gisteraand deur vyf Matie verdedigers gehol het om 'n prag drie te druk. Ek dink die Maties soek nog die man. Hy't hope talent maar hy gaan nie vir 'groter' spanne speel nie juis omdat hy 'n 'klein' agterspeler is nie. By die Bulle gaan dit beslis oor lengte omdat hulle die bal in die lug opskop en so druk op teenstanders plaas. Hierdie jong mannetjie (sy naam ontbreek my nou) is te kort vir hoë balle, maar hy't spoed en 'n gifte 'step'.



  15. gravatar Dries says:
    Barry, met alle respek, jy is duidelik oningelig oor Pote se loopbaan.

    In sy eerste jaar by Griekwas het sy span die Vodacombeker finaal gehaal, waar hulle met twee punte teen ‘n baie sterk WP-span verloor het. Onthou, dié reeks is meer krag-teen-krag vir Griekwas, aangesien die groter unies heelwat spelers aan die SuperRugby spanne afstaan. Griekwas verloor terloops self ‘n hele paar manne na die Cheetahs.

    Daardie jaar (2012) het Griekwas daarin geslaag om vier wedstryde in die Curriebekerreeks te wen en uiteindleik vyfde (net-net ná die Bulle) te eindig. Met ‘n begroting kleiner as dié van Tukkies se Varsitybekerspan!

    In 2013 het Pote gesukkel met nuwe spelers, nadat hy heelwat top manne van die vorige jaar verloor het. Hy moes basies van vooraf begin. Griekwas het in die Vodacom kwarteind teen WP verloor en in die Curriebeker het hulle sesde geëindig. Tog is hulle nooit in daardie Curriebeker veldtog verneder nie en hulle het in 6 wedstryde (dus 60% van hul wedstryde) bonuspunte verdien vir nederlae met minder as 7 punte! Hulle was in daardie seisoen een van net twee spanne wat die Sharks kon klop. In hul tweede wedstryd teen die Natallers het hulle met net een punt teen die Sharks verloor. (Die Sharks was uiteindleik die kampioen!)

    Hoewel Pote dit nooit in die openbaar erken het nie, was sy en Abre Minnie (wat saam met hom bedank het) se groot frustrasie dat hulle by Griekwas teen die bestes moes kompeteer, terwyl hulle moes raap en skraap om spelers te werf. En as spelers presteer by Griekwas, word hulle deur groter unies afgerokkel. (Dink aan Willie le Roux, Riaan Viljoen, Sarel Pretorius, Marnitz Boshoff, Lourens Adriaanse en. ens…) Dan moet die afrigter van vooraf begin. Langtermyn beplanning is dus onmoontlik! Dit was presies een van Jimmy Stonehouse se klagtes by die Pumas ook!

    Onthou, Pote was Heyneke se voorspelr afrigter toe die Bulle se sukses gebou is op hul voorspelrs se oorheersing! In 2006 was hy die hoofafrigter toe die Bulle die Curriebeker met die Cheetahs gedeel het.

    Oral waar Pote nog afgerig het, het hy sy merk gemaak, veral as ‘n briljante afrigter van voorspelers!
  16. gravatar Nguni says:
    Pragtig gestel Dries!
  17. gravatar Bullsrbest says:
    Perhaps we should use this Tuks team as our Super 14 - they can only do better than what our current team is doing.
  18. gravatar nitronic says:
    Baie mooi gestel Dries.

    So hoe dit vir my lyk is, Pote is reverdig t.o.v keuse van spelers en dus respekteer hulle hom en hy respekteer spelers ook. Ek kan verkeerd wees maar by Pote lyk dit nie of daar "favourites" is nie, m.a.w jy verdien jou plek in die span.

    Dit ongelukkig bestaan glad nie in Ludacris se boekies nie.

    Ek sal graag die volgende stats wil sien.

    1) Number of tries scored before and after Pieter Rossouw as backline coach
    2) Number of scrums won before and after Wessel Roux as scrum coach

    Of miskien wil ons dit nie sien nie ; )

    Iets wat ook helder was in die 2 games is ons gebrek aan kondisionering of fiksheid. Ons het maar swaar en hard geblaas daai tweede helfdes.
  19. Wie was die agterlyn afrigter saam HM?

    Ek het al laasjaar my indrukke uitgespreek teen Wessel Roux. (indrukke klink eintlik TE positief, maar julle weet wat ek bedoel)

    Ek sal watwou gee om te weet hoe redeneer die direksie. In geen Maatskappy sal sulke vlakke van onder presteer verdra word nie. Die feit dat dit jaar na jaar slegter gaan sonder enige tekens van verbetering en nog steeds verdra word, slaan my dronk.

    Wat sê FL aan die bestuur dat hulle die geploeter duld en wat sê die bestuur aan die aandeelhouers (SAIL) en die borge dat hulle die geploeter duld.

    As aandeelhouer en borg sou ek lankal my stem dik gemaak het.

    Ekself het mense wat vir my werk (weliswaar net 3), maar sit elke 6 maande en doen 'n prestasie beoordeling. Knelpunte word aangespreek en stappe gedoen om dit te verbeter. Ek is gelukkig dat almal hulle kant bring, maar indien 1 van hulle 'n "FL" of Wessel" was, sou ek hom/ haar lankal uitgewerk het. Daar is maniere om dit wettiglik te doen.

    Vir 'n rugby unie is dit nog makliker omrede daar 'n prestasie klousule in hulle kontrakte is, tensy FL en sy span die standaarde handhaaf wat daar vir hulle gestel is.
  20. gravatar bluebull says:
    Barry

    Pote coached the Bulls forwards from 2006. He coached the CC side that year that drew with Free State.

    In 2007 he was the forwards coach again for superrugby and his CC side was very unlucky to loose against Cheetahs in the semi. At the end of that year Frans Ludeke got the job from nowhere (?). I dont think Pote should head all coaching at Loftus, but he sure as hell will be a huge improvement if we promote him to senior rugby.

    I think Victor is still very inexperienced and word is from the camp that he doesn't always know how to translate his knowledge and skills To the players.

    On this topic of Victor. He should really decide if he wants to be the captain or the coach. He needs to let the captain be the captain. That alone can be very anoying.
  21. gravatar bluebull says:
    By the way

    Pote is the only Bulls coach who achieved something at the Bulls with the understrenght Bulls teams.
  22. gravatar Barry says:
    Dries,

    Dankie vir verkorte les oor Pote Human. Egter staan ek vas op my punt. Dawie Theron het destyds dieselfde probleem as Griekwa afrigter gehad en soos jy sê Jimmy Stonehouse ook. Hoe lyk hulle stats?

    Ek het geen probleem met Pote as hulpafrigter nie of voorspelerafrigter nie, maar wel as hoofafrigter. Ek glo daar is 'n rede waarom Pote terug is in die BB kultuur en by Tukkies afrigter is, en daardie antwoord sal ons weldra kry. Ons moet net seker maak hy draf nie die selfde tyd en pad as PdV in Pretoria se strate nie.

    Eerlikwaar ek sou Dawie Theron by die Bulle wou sien, al is dit net vir 'n nuwe besem.

    Ek sê weer, ek't niks teen Pote as persoon nie. What you see is what you get, en hy weet wat hy wil hê.
  23. gravatar Dries says:
    Barry, net nog 'n opmerking of tweeoor jou post hierbo.

    Dis algemeen bekend dat Jurie Roux al in di eopenbaar gesê het dat die tyd aangebreek het vir 'n Springbok afriter om vir twee termyne te dien, sodat ordentlike structure rondom di ebokspan gevestig kan word. Meyer self het ook al in di eopenbaar gesê dat hy daarvan droom om die eerste afrigter te word wat twee termyne met die Bokke werk.

    As Meyer dus sukses behaal (ten minste die finaal haal) by vanjaar se wêreldbeker toernooi, sal hy heel waarskynlik 'n kontrak van ten minste nog twee jaar aangebied word.

    Of die Bulls hom terug sal wil hê is natuurlik 'n ander storie. Meyer se werkswyse word nie altyd op Loftus waardeer nie en die wyse waarop hy himself losgewikkel het uit sy magtige posisie by die Bulle in 2012 om die Bokke t egaan afrig laat vandag nog 'n wrang smaak by baie manne in Bulls-geledere.

    Meyer se pos as Direkteur van Rugby is nooit gevul nie, maar word tans as deel van Frans se pligte beskou, wat hy in samewerking met 'n strategiese komitee by die Bulle vervul. Dit sou dus baie maklik wees om die Direkteur van Rugby-pos vir Frans te gee en dan 'n ander hoof-afrigter aan te stel.

    Vraag is net, sal 'n ou soos Pote onder Frans werk na dit wat in 2008 gebeur het?

    * Old Blue Eyes, aanvanklik was Meyer se agterlynafrigter Mike Bayly. Aan die einde van 2006 is Heyneke op 'n "verkennings"-toer na Australië en Nieu-Seeland en toe hy terugkom het hy Tod Louden uit Australië saamgelok om die Bulle se agterlyn in 2007 onder hande te neem. Louden het destyds groot lof gekry vir sy aandeel in die Bulls se sukses toe hulle die eerste keer die SuperRugby reeks gewen het. Hulle het skielik baie meer drieë gedruk en die agterlynspel het oral lof gekry.

    Louden het kort na die SuperRugby seisoen teruggekeer Australië toe en aan die einde van daardie seisoen/begin 2008 is Heyneke ook weg. Oor Burokrasie, blykbaar!
  24. gravatar Dries says:
    Barry, hier is vir jou 'n goeie oefening om uit te voer:

    Kry vir jou opnames van Vrydagaand se Bulls wedstryd teen die Canes en een van gisteraand se Varsitybeker wedstryd tussen Tuks en Maties.

    Speel dan hierdie twee opnames gelyktydig op twee skerms direk langs mekaar. Vra dan vir jouself die earlike vraag: As jy enige leek op straat nader sou trek en hom vra watter span tussen die Bulle en Tukkies is die beste afgerig, wat sou die antwoord wees?

    Ek wed jou die meeste sou vra of die Bulls ooit afgerig word... al draf een van hul belangrikste afrigter saam op die veld rond en vang nou en dan 'n lynstaanbal!
  25. gravatar Passdiebal says:
    Ek volg Jan en William se rugby van skool. My hart breek om te sien hoe al hulle flair uit hulle uitgecoach is in BB land.
    N 12 in BB rugby is n crash en basher en n 13 is n loskrum cleaner - want die voorspelers staan in die agterlyn.
    SO ook Pollard, JJ, Basson en PvZ.
    Dan ook - F Venter , J Sadie - en die ander manne wat gewaai het.

    BB Rugby is die begrafplaas vir agterspelers met flair.
    Jesse sal volg - mark my words.
  26. gravatar Barry says:
    Dries,

    Daar sal ek jy saamstem. Ek het beide wedstryde gekyk, en die Tuksmanne het die rook uit die Maties gespeel. En jy's reg Dries, die Tuksmaane WOU speel om te wen. Hulle is goed afgerig, ek gee dit toe.

    Dis juis hoekom ek sê dat FL sukkel, en hy't nie antwoorde nie. Hy is raadop en as hy nog een keer sê: "Ons moet meer akkuraat wees" verkoop ek my tv aan my buurman vir 'n kruiwa sand. Langs hom sit Pieter Russouw met net so min oplossings. Wessel Roux lyk bekommerd nog voor die wedstryd begin, want hy weet wat kort. Ek dink die afrigtingsgroepie is vuisvoos. As jou afrigters 'no where' is, waar is jou span?

    In die stilligheid hoop ek jy is reg dat HM nooit weer terugkom Bulle toe nie, want 2012 was dit nie die eerste keer wat hy van 'n afrigtingspos af weggeloop het nie. Dit maak nie 'n slegte afrigter nie, maar dit maak hom onbetroubaar.

    Ek dink dis tyd vir iemand wat buite die 'kring' beweeg om 'n verskil te kom maak.
  27. gravatar Cornelius says:
    Manne julle kan week na week n span kies op die blog, maar die man aan die stuur Frans kyk nie eers daar na ,of hy lag dit af
    Nee mens kannie glo wat in Blou Bul land aan gaan, Selfs Naas sê as ons saterdag verloor hang daar n DONKER WOLK OOR PRETORIE, EN DIE MAN WEET WAAR VAN HY PRAAT
  28. gravatar victoriabok says:
    Ek sien Frans was ingeroep

    "Already there are rumours at Loftus about Ludeke’s position, with the coach being called in after the Stormers game by the board to explain the team’s loss"


    http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Ludeke-faces-his-toughest-challenge-20150223


    Ludeke faces his toughest challenge


    Johannesburg - Bulls coach Frans Ludeke faces one of the toughest challenges of his career this week – resurrecting the Bulls campaign.

    According to the supersport.com website, two losses at home from two outings has piled on the pressure for the Bulls, with the prospect of their Vodacom Super Rugby campaign further coming off the rails if they don’t beat the Cell C Sharks this coming weekend at Loftus.

    And given their current form, it is a mighty ask.

    All the promise and excitement pre-season for the Bulls with big victories over Saracens and the Toyota Cheetahs has been burnt up by two mediocre outings on their own hallowed turf.

    Now, for the first time in his tenure as coach of the Bulls, Ludeke must find the answers for a season that is stuttering from the start.

    The talk of rebuilding is no longer a factor, with a fully fit side, and 12 Springboks in their ranks, the Bulls cannot use that excuse anymore.


    Even in 2008, the last time Ludeke faced such a crisis in his opening season, the Bulls managed to win at home. In 2014 when they lost their opening two games, both were away from home, allowing the Bulls to get close to the playoffs with an unbeaten run at their Loftus fortress.

    But now, for the first time since 2008, they have lost their opening two fixtures.

    And there is growing unease at Loftus Versfeld, especially among the fans, who are voting with their feet at the team’s performances. The opening fixture against the Stormers attracted 37000 fans, a figure that dropped to 12000 on Friday night against the Hurricanes, and while Friday night fixtures against foreign teams often struggle to attract fans, the Bulls performances aren’t helping either.

    There is a growing chorus that is targeting Ludeke and not the players for the team’s problems, especially in terms of conservative choices in selection and game plan.

    The Bulls struggles up front, despite having several Boks in their ranks, the inability of their setpieces to put any pressure on opposition and their poor form in terms of finishing off the opportunities they create are all worries that still have to be addressed by the team.

    The Sharks showed just how powerful they could be in the driving Durban rain in the setpieces, and now that they have achieved dominance up front once, they will be looking to repeat that at Loftus on Saturday.

    If the Bulls lose to the Sharks at home – a third consecutive home loss – their chances of making the playoffs will be extremely slim – especially as they aren’t known for getting wins on the road, something they will then have to do to get back into contention.

    Already there are rumours at Loftus about Ludeke’s position, with the coach being called in after the Stormers game by the board to explain the team’s loss. After a struggling 2014 season where the team’s finances were dealt a blow and players left in droves because of the team’s recruitment policy, it was hoped that 2015 would bring better results.

    But suddenly the Bulls look toothless up front, and their senior players are lacking the impact that is needed. To say that teams no longer fear the Loftus factor, nor the Bulls pack, is an understatement.

    Still, Ludeke remains positive, and believes his team need just one win to rectify matters and get their season on track. Despite the enormity of the Sharks challenge, the Bulls believe they can win on Saturday and make things right.

    “When you have two performances like that, the best thing to do is just keep quiet and fix it,” Ludeke said.

    “We know the areas, there are no grey areas that we need to guess what is costing us. We need to improve. Last week there were some areas that cost us, and we need to be more accurate.”

    “There must be more urgency because we lost balls at breakdowns that we could have prevented.

    “But you know what is needed, we just need that first win and things start falling into place. We’re positive though, we must just keep our heads down. It’s a long season, it’s a tough competition. We need to manage that first win, hopefully next week we can get a result.”

    Ludeke said in the week before the Hurricanes the game was a “must-win” for the team. The Sharks game has an even higher importance after the loss to the New Zealand side.

    But Ludeke points out it is a marathon, not a sprint that wins Super Rugby competitions, and considering he won in 2009 and 2010, he should be given a chance to rectify matters. But it is clear the patience is wearing thin.

    “It’s also a must win,” Ludeke added referring to the Sharks game.

    “If we say it’s a must win, we realise how important the game is. When you miss out, you need to keep your focus and attitude. This week is a vital one.

    “I’ve seen a lot of sides that have lost their first four games, and went on. It’s all about getting back on the horse, getting that first win and focusing on next week.

    “Don’t focus on the season, just make sure we focus on next week and do what we have to do.”

    This weekend’s game against the Sharks would already have been a pressure-cooker, no matter when in the season it is played.

    But for the Bulls it has become critical, and for Ludeke the task is excruciatingly important to get right.

    More than the points on offer are at stake.
  29. gravatar victoriabok says:
    Ek stem saam, ons moet die spelpatroon verander


    http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/bulls-must-change-attitude-game-plan


    Bulls must change game plan


    The problems at Loftus are greater than indifferent early season form, writes MARK KEOHANE in Business Day newspaper.

    How else does one explain a second home defeat?

    Something is not right. The physical intensity, synonymous with any successful Vodacom Bulls Super Rugby or Currie Cup campaign, is absent.

    The mongrel is missing. The opening quarter stampede has been gone for some time.

    The Bulls were my favourites to take the South African conference. I also backed them to be more a contender than pretender for this season’s Super Rugby title.

    Yet they’ve looked awful in losing two matches in succession at home – and in both matches the Stormers and Hurricanes respectively have physically owned the Bulls.

    SuperSport analyst and former Springbok coach Nick Mallett questioned the Bulls' recruitment policy after the defeat against the Stormers, and asked questions of a set piece that lacked potency in the scrum and was surprisingly vulnerable in the lineout.

    The lineout woes are a surprise, given Victor Matfield’s presence, but it could also be Matfield’s presence that's adding to the woes at scrum time.

    Matfield has never been renowned as a strong scrummager, but the Bulls have never struggled quite as much in the scrums, as has been the case in the last two matches.

    The Stormers are a strong physical unit, but it took some getting used to seeing the Hurricanes shoving the Bulls off the ball and seeing the Canes physically superior in the collisions.

    The Canes have always had a reputation for possessing backline players with brilliance and individual flair, but seldom have they been spoken of as a unit that physically causes problems.

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Canes pack so comfortable in a visit to Loftus. Equally, a Bulls pack so timid and so easily dealt with.

    The talk of the Bulls being in a rebuilding phase is absolute nonsense. Coach Frans Ludeke used 12 Springboks against the Stormers and the same mixture of experience and youth started against the Hurricanes.

    There are some great individuals in the Bulls lineup, from veteran Bok Matfield to flyhalf Handré Pollard. But as a unit, there's very little going on and I agree with Mallett that it starts with the absence of something special in the front row.

    The front-row woes aren’t the only reason the Bulls are struggling and the lack of results can’t be attributed exclusively to limitations in player depth.

    The Bulls, on balance, have one of the better squads in the competition and they should not be winless after two home games.

    I don’t see them recovering enough to make a play for a top-six finish unless there's a change in attitude and also a change in game-plan approach.

    The Stormers, for a second successive week, showed enough to get the win, although their failure to get a four-try bonus point against the Blues is rightly a talking point when playing against 14 men for 55 minutes.

    The Blues showed greater commitment and application when reduced to 14 but the Stormers, at home, and very comfortable in the set phases, didn’t offer much on attack.

    The Stormers were particularly good in the last hour against the Bulls in the season’s opener but this has to be put into context after the Bulls' continued struggles against the Canes last Friday evening.

    The form guide will only come into play after four or five weeks of the tournament and the second week provided as many surprises as week one, if historical tournament standing is the barometer.

    One result that wasn’t surprising was the Sharks' easy win against the Lions, who again look nothing like the team that blossoms in the Currie Cup.

    There is a distinct difference in quality between Super Rugby and Currie Cup and there's also a huge difference when the Sharks play with their current Springboks, especially captain Bismarck du Plessis.

    The Lions, less than four months ago, scored 50 points against the Sharks in a home Currie Cup semi-final. But the Sharks didn’t have their contracted Springboks available, and with no such limitations in Durban, the Sharks were a 50-point better team.

    The abysmal conditions should have aided the Lions, but Du Plessis produced a master class in the collisions and with the Sharks captain always on the front foot, the Lions never threatened victory.

    The Lions, like the Bulls, are without a win in the competition. And like the Bulls, the answers to a winning formula aren’t that obvious.

  30. gravatar Stapper says:
    Kry dit reg in julle koppe:

    Varsitybeker is 3 liga's laer as superrugby. Dus is dit makliker daar om suksesvol te wees as superrugby. Dis geen vergelyking nie.
  31. gravatar Kaap'se Bul says:
    HM is reeds n 2 jaar verlenging aangebied na die WB, met sekere prestasies wat nie genoem is nie. AC weet ook dat hy die opvolger gaan wees en daarom Japan toe gaan na Super rugby.

    So ver die Bulls spelers betref is dit my beskeie mening dat die groot hoeveelheid nuwe spelers in die groep ietwat van die (wen)kultuur verander het. Sielkundig het die dalk net n Pote Human nodig om die manne hard te laat sweet en weer op bou, want duidelik kan FL dit nie doen.

    Ook n vat nie nonsens Kaptein nie, die enigste wat daardie rol kan vul is A Struass.

    Stem ook Vic moet maar afrigter wees by die Bulls want jy kan nie albei wees nie, die manne kannie brom met n coach in die locker room nie, so hoe en waar lug hulle frustrasies sonder om hul plek te verloor of gebrandmerk word.

    Daar is n "sielkundige probleem" in die kamp en dit word gesien aan die spelers se lyf taal op die veld.

    Dink as BBRU die gesprekke hier bo lees moet hul ook besef iets moet drasties gedoen word, maar nou ja of BBRU raad enigs omgee is n ander vraag..

  32. gravatar chris says:
    Die beste wat nou kan gebeur is dat die Sharks ons n behoorlike pakslae gee, dit sal die druk op FL vererger. Dit sal die beste wees, FL moet knak.
  33. En daar steek die kwotamonster weer sy kop uit. Rugby tranformeer te stadig en teen 2019 moet soveel % sus en so wees maar nee verseker Jurie van SARU ons dis glad nie kwotas nie. Hoe de hel werk dit???

    Ek gee nie om wat die kleur van die speler is nie. Ek sweer dit. As hy die beste in sy posisie is speel hom asseblief. John Mametsa was een van my groot helde. So ook Chilliboy en selfs Wylie Human om maar enkeles te noem.

    Maar om dit te forseer gaan maak dat ons spelers al hoe meer vir ander lande gaan speel waar MERIETE dieenigste liniaal is en nie die demografie of die kleur van jou vel nie. Slegs MERIETE.

    Sommer lus en vra dat SA uit internasionale rugby geskop word as spankeuses nie op meriete geskied nie. Ons almal weet apartheid was verkeerd en in die proses was daar soveel begaafde spelers van kleur wat nooit bokke of bulle kon speel nie. Nou is weer besig met daai twak.
    Aggenee aggenee. Regtig SARU wat is julle mee besig?
  34. gravatar chris says:
    Maar oor sokker word daar niks gese nie, dit verteenwoordig ook nie SA nie, alles n groot klomp BS!!!!!
  35. gravatar bluebull says:


    Well it is evident: Tuks play with 21 soldiers from the World Cup u.20's last year or the year before - how many did Maties have? So Varsity Cup should actually be overshadowed by Tuks.

    So Stapper, What's it gonna take for the Bulls to win agaiin? is it the players, is it the coach, is it some players? Set pieces?
  36. gravatar Franscois says:
    Maak m so hartseer as ek soos nou i artikel lees wat se daar moet 7 gekleurd wees in i 23 man span vir die bokke dit is so onregvertig hoe moet i speler soos beast en bryan voel hulle verdien hul plek nie daar op kleur!! En tweedens so onregverdig teen jong wit spelers ek meen as jy goed genoeg is sal jy gekies word maak nie saak watter kleur jy is nie geen wonder al ons jong spelers gan oorsee julle fok rugby in ons land op verdien jou plek!!!!
  37. gravatar bluebull says:
    Francois it is damn sad.I think on provincial level it is going to Be increased. Tough times ahead for all our coaches and recruiters. We cant compete with the Euro and now this as well.
  38. gravatar kabous 23 says:
    Ek dink beide die van der merwe's gaan 'n verskil in die pak maak. Marchelle is 'n stabiele vasskop, en Flip (wanneer hy terug is) gaan ekstra slaankrag en gewig in die pak inbring. Flip spring goed op 2 en is 'n skrum sterk.

    Meneer Matfield (ja nie sommer net Vic nie) work heeltemal misbruik. ek sal graag vir Flip en Jaques wil sien saam begin met Victor op die bench. Hatting en Jaques vir nou terwyl flip beseer is. As die span regtig sukkel kan Victor vroeg opkom, anders slegs 20 minute impak. Ek Dink hy kan vir die bokke die selfde rol vervul met Etsebeth en du toit begin en Victor op die Bench.

    Ek het Nog nooit 'n profesionele sportspan afgerig nie, so my opienie is maar vaag, maar dit wil tog vir my lyk of die bulle 'n totale vernuwing in afrigting strukture nodig het. Victor en Fourie mag dalk die gunstelinge wees, maar ek dink nie hulle gaan vernuwing kan bewerkstellig nie. My idiaale afrigters is Pote Human (die groei in die Tuks span vanaf laasjaar tot nou, en voorspeler spel) en Robert du Preez (Goeie spel by Pukke, was ongelukkig om nie laasjaar die vasity te wen nie).

    Ek Dink een van die redes vir die herlewing in Leeu rugby is omdat hulle Vir Beide Pukke en Rau (sorry NWU en JU) gebruik as ontwikkeling korps en vir tegniese versorging. Met RdP by die bulle kan kan hulle nouer bande met Pukke smee wat net goed sal wees vir Bul rugby.

    Fourie du Preez het nog nooit afgerig nie, en dit sal miskien beter wees as hy eers betrokke raak by Tukkies voor hy dadelik ingespan word by Super rugby. Mr Victor Matfield miskien eerder direkteur van rugby en lynstaan konsultant, maar nie direk verantwoordelik vir die span nie.

    Ek hoop HM se tydperk by die bokke word verleng. Hy is meer nodig by die bokke as by die bulle.
  39. gravatar kabous 23 says:
    Sonder beserings is my idiale span soos volg

    1 Trever/dean 16 M Mallet
    2 Adriaan/visagie 17 Maku
    3 Marchelle 18 Werner
    4 Flip/hatting 19 Matfield
    5 J du P 20 Spies
    6 Steggies/w liebenberg 21 Piet v Zyl
    7 Lappies/arno 22 Jurgen Visser
    8 Liebenberg 23 Dan Kriel
    9 Hougie/paige
    10 Pollard/potgieter
    11 Udengo/Ndugane
    12 Jan
    13 WSS
    14 JJE/Basson
    15 Jessie Kriel

    Ek dink die bench is deesdae net so belangrik soos die begin 15 en aarom sal ek nie net automaties spelers van die bench in die begin span sit vir beserings nie, Maar eerder 'n rotasie beleid volg. Slegs 5 spelers van kleur mag dalk oor die langer termyn probleme veroorsaak.
  40. Môre Stapper, jy is heeltemaal reg dat daar 'n helse verskil is tussen SR en VC. Iemand soos Dan Kriel en Wiaan Liebenberg sal egter geen SR span in die steek laat nie. Dan Kriel is beter as JJE en moet Ryan Nell nie weg gooi nie. Net jammer oor sy besering. Wiaan is baie stief behandel deur die bulle en ek het die idee gekry hy het net sy voete begin vind as fetcher laasjaar ten spite daarvan dat Ross bo hom verkies is as fetcher en hy sodoende min geleentheid gekry het.

    Wat uitstaan soos 'n seeroog tussen die 2 spanne se performance is die spelers se commitment. Daar is geen manier wat iemand my gaan oortuig dat die stormers beter spelers as die bulle het nie, maar hulle is 'n beter span bloot omdat hulle meer gecommit is as die bulle- ditto die canes.

    Genoeg is ook nou al gesê oor die game plan.
  41. gravatar Barry says:
    Kwotas of transformasie? Al 14 Unies het die onderneming geteken en stem saam dat hulle die teikens sal bereik kom 2019 op ALLE vlakke onder hulle bestuur.

    In sekere provinsies speel een uit 35 skole rugby maar SARU het reeds R500m spandeer aan transformasie sedert 1992? 84% van spelers op skool en klubvlak is swart spelers. .....iets maak nie sin nie? Dalk is dit maar net ek, want ek weet ek kan nie tel nie daarom het ek 'n beroep gekies waar tel 'n basiese funksie is. SARU dink seker dat ons ondersteuners onnosel is.

    Mense van regoor Afrika, China, Pakistan, Kuba en wie weet nog vlooi die land binne soos water uit 'n gebarste pyp stroom, maar dis okay. Solank daar net nie te veel 'wit' rubyspelers is nie. Wat is rugby se belasting bydra 'n jaar in vergelyking met ander sportkodes? Ek wonder maar net?

    Dis waarom ons jong seuns die land verlaat. Gister het ek gal gebraak oor Jacques du Plessis maar vandag sing ek 'n ander deuntjie. SARU se taak word makliker gemaak deur ons jong seuns wat elders hulle loopbane gaan voortsit.

    Dit help ons kla oor sokker nie, niks gaan gedoen word nie. Kyk maar net na die samestelling van die regering dan sal jy verstaan waarom niks sal gebeur nie.

    Gelyke geleenthede moet bestaan. Gesonde goeie wedywering vir 'n plek in 'n span. Sal dit ooit gebeur? Ek glo nie.

    Dalk moet die Bulle tog maar oorweeg om PdV nader te trek want hy kla soos 'n baba dat niemand hom wil hê nie,
    dan kan hy die Bulspelers elke oggend groet met sy tekkies aan instede van petroljoggies.

    Is ek negatief vanoggend, hel ja! Ek het drie seuns op skool wat rugby speel, toe hulle gisteraand die nuus berig op tv sien en kommentaar daaroor lewer toe weet ek ..........
  42. gravatar Muzi says:
    It's been a rocky two weeks hasn't it?
    I'd like to know who's the Bulls head coach and captain?!?! let's be brutally honest Oom Matfield wants to do everything it's like he's power hungry or something?!?!
    Nyakane, Strauss and Marcel will form a good front row but the other problems are at lock, Jacques du Plessis is a poor man's PSDT, he has been missing in action near the rucks there's a good reason why he's picked at 4 if he doesn't want to put his body on the line then he can go to france ASAP.
    I'm pretty sure RG Snyman, Jason Jenkins or Nicolaas Janse Van Rensburg will do a far better job.
    Oom Matfield is weak totally very weak take away the line outs he brings nothing to the table.
    I was happy Pollard played better people still forget he's 20-years-old he was not to blame for the loss against the Stormers, obviously he'll have a bad day in the office the kid is not yet the finished article.
    It could be a make or break week for coach FL, if he loses against the guppies then surely he's a dead man walking.
  43. gravatar Muzi says:
    Lol some Bulls supporters need to get in touch with reality....there's a massive massive difference between Varsity Cup and Super Rugby....Pote Human is using a shadow Bulls/Vodacom Cup side obvisouly Tukkies are expected to thrash most varsity cup sides...all I can say is there's is a BIG step up from Varsity Cup rugby to Vodacom Cup Rugby...Dan Kriel may run over other centres in Varsity Cup level but come Super Rugby level he'll get flattened...look what Savea did to Jan.....
  44. gravatar nitronic says:
    Howzit muzi?

    Ok so who will you play at 12 and 13? JJ hasn't really impressed at all. Serfontein is another Olivier. I will be good for another player to run off Serfontein to maybe try the off-load but I am afraid not one Bull's player (well maybe Lappies) has got the skills to do that and also maybe the braincell's as well
  45. gravatar bluebull says:
    Muzi I also wonder after watchinh the game on Friday nigjt again, what is the impact of Matfield on the team?

    - Is he coaching or playing? He cant do both.

    - I saw him questioning the ref's decisions a few times and he even walked with Spies to the ref. I honestly think Victor needs to step down. He is such a great player. But what is his influence on this team? How is that impacting on the coaching staff?

    - Du Plessis was turned into a flanker and now again to nr. 4 lock. Why doesnt the Bulls play Van Rensburg? du Plessis looks very uncomfortable there. But how would he do with Hattingh alongside him?
  46. Muzi, Matfield het naas Lappies die meeste tackles ingesit, was ook 'n paar keer eerste by afbreekpunte gewees. Dalk sê dit meer oor die ander voorspelers se werkverrigting as syne, besluit maar self.

    Savea hardloop oor baie spelers. Het jy gesien hoe hardloop Dan se boetie bo-oor 'n SR stut? Ek is seker Dan sal sy man kan staan tot WSS herstel het van sy besering. Dan is immers groter en sterker gebou as WSS.

    Verder is ek seker die meeste van Maties se spelers gaan ook in die Vodacom Cup speel, ditto UJ vir leeus,Pukke vir Luiperds, Shimlas vir VS ens.

    Die punt is, die Tukkie spelers lyk na 'n goed afgerigte span wat met commitment speel. Die bulls is 'n klomp sterre wat swak afgerig voorkom en sonder commitment speel.
  47. gravatar Muzi says:
    @Nitronic
    Good Day,
    Damn...it looks like the dark days have returned at loftus.....
    WSS injured is a huge blow...even Odendaal....
    I've said it a million times oh hell I'm actually getting sick and tired of talking about it JJ is a wing an out and out wing IMHO he will never be a world class 13...
    I think Dan Kriel is unavailable he's playing for Tukkies....
    Jan is an outstanding player, it's not his fault that he's playing according to instructions Bulls and FL always use the 12 for crash balls to set up play, Dries Swanepoel is one player that can bring out the best in Serfontein but the problem is FL will ignore him AGAIN...
    12.Jan and 13.Jesse...might just work this weekend....
  48. gravatar Muzi says:
    @OLD BLUE EYES
    I think I might be too critical towards Matfield but damn he's even losing some of his line out balls?!?!
    I fear that PSDT.......now that's a no nonsense player hard as nails he tackles, he bullies, he steals line out balls, he's a great ball carrier...gosh...we will see what happens on Saturday.
  49. gravatar Muzi says:
    @BLUEBULL
    Oh dear it may even get worse for Oom Vic.....it could get nasty PSDT is a machine...Matfield may be in for another tough day in the office...
  50. gravatar nitronic says:
    Muzi will you then have Visser again at 15? Yes Serfie is following instructions, but we need those offload to carry on with the momentum.

  51. gravatar Muzi says:
    Arno Botha needs to stop hogging the gym and spend more time on the flippen field and that goes for you too Pierre...for goodness sake we need Botha....he needs to toe down his body can't handle the extra weight tone down bud.
  52. gravatar Muzi says:
    I'd go to war with 8.Hanro Liebenberg, 7.Nardus Van Der Walt and 6.Lappies....imagine how good this loose trio would be....they can fetch the ball, clean the rucks, powerful ball carriers and most importantly they will put their bodies on the line....watch out Frans Ludeke a top union will sign Nardus soon rather than later he's too good a player to be stuck at Vodacom Cup Rugby level...
  53. gravatar nitronic says:
    agree muzi here's to hoping Botha does not become another Spies. Look like Tarzan plays like Jane.

    PSDT and Etzebeth should be out starting lock pairing at the WC. I have this strange feeling that Spies will be called up and Oom Vic to start. Hopefully HM will make me realise it might just be a nightmare.
  54. gravatar Muzi says:
    I personally would gamble with young Warrick Gelant, he needs to improve defensively but that kid is going to be one hell of a player....if Visser does play one can say...15+ points to the sharks that's how bad he is...the worst full back in Bulls history...Beyers was nothing special but not this bad....
  55. gravatar Muzi says:
    @NITRONIC
    Bulls are lucky to have Hanro Liebenberg, at this rate he's going to become a great player, Botha and Pierre spend too much time at the gym and on social media especially Twitter and Instagram....judging by the rubbish they both dished out if I was the coach both of them would be playing for TUT....
  56. gravatar jurie says:
    Solank as wat FL in die unie rondhang is daar net opdraande manne sorry maar as director of coaching gaan ons aftjop boys. Gert Smal van WP weet wat hy doen .
  57. Aahh, Nardus vd Walt. Muzi nou praat jy.

    Ek het hom in laasjaar se Vodacom Cup gesien en hou van sy aggressie. Presies dit wat ons kort in die huidige span. En hy het lekker spoed. Kan nie verstaan hoekom hy nie kans gekry het in die CC nie. o ja, Ross was mos daar.

  58. gravatar skippie says:
    MUZI en n paar van die ander manne. Julle klomp manne vra n klomp vra wat ek graag wil antwoord. Dries is beseer!!! Ulrich Beyers speel in Frankryk. Varsiry Cup is lank nie Superrugby. Jacques Du Plessis speel nou eers sy 5de slot wedstryd van sy lewe en nie os hy PSDT se poor man. Hoe kan jy in elk geval die 2 vergelyk. PSDT speel 5 en Jacques 4. Jacques was verlede jaar rotsvas op 7 en het briljante driee gedruk teen ou hande. Julle vergeet hy is n voorspeler ne!!! Dis hard en hy is bloedjonk. Gee hom kans om te groei in die posisie. Muzi het jy vergeey hy was mom teen Sarries. Daar het hy ondersteuning en spasie gehad om sy spel te kon speel.
    Nie een van ons gaan ooit saamstem oor die spankeuses want ons elkeen het ons eie favourites. Dis regtig waar nie nodig om jou no favourites met modder te gooi nie. Wees ingelig manne asb. Die negatiwiteit maak my naar!!
  59. gravatar Cornelius says:
    hEY SOPAS SMS GEKRY VAN LOFTUS KAARTJIE KANTOOR WAT HEET, PLEASE BUY YOUR TICKET FOR SATURDAY, THE BULLS WILL BOUNCE BACK
    Ek glo nie so met die afrigter
  60. gravatar nitronic says:
    Skippie, ons probeer J Dup die benefit gee maar ons almal weet daar is baie wat in hom steek wat ons nog nie gesien het nie? Is dit dalk dat hy klaar aan die Euros dink?

    Ons is naar en negatief want wat die bulle nou speel en teen sarries en vrystaat gespeel het is heeltemal anders. Was Sarries regtig so swak en het hulle ons maar net goed laat lyk?

    N mens kon nog dalk effens positiefs wees as die bulle op die regte pad lyk maar hulle doen nie. Ons is besig om vinnig afdraend te hardloop.

    Weet jy vir hoe lank Dries uit is?
  61. gravatar Paarlbul says:
    "The Mongrel is missing" - mooi gestel Keo, want dit is presies dit wat FL nie kan regkry nie.
    My 2 sente wat span/groep aanbetref - maar met FL aan die stuur beteken ook nie veel. Wat wel waar is daar is baie talent
    15. J Kriel
    W Galant (Theron verkies hom bo Kriel by o/20)
    J Visser (hy moet geleer word om altyd te fokus
    14. Ulengo ( die biekie wat ek gesien het maak 'n ou opgewonde
    JJ - Teen Hurricanes weer gewys hy is GIN senter nie
    11 Basson ongelukkig die enigste pass wat hy = box kick
    13 WSS - Jammer hy is weer beseer
    Dries Swanepoel - was dodelike kombinasie met Jan
    Dan Kriel
    12 Serfontein – FL onderdruk sy nattuurlike spel
    Odendaal - sou hom graag wou sien ander goed doen as crash ball
    JT Jackson - jong oukie met baie talent
    10 Pollard - meer vryheid baie beter
    JL Potgieter
    9 Hougaard - moenie skop nie
    JP Smith - baie goeie skopper van bal
    P van Zyl - moenie skop nie
    A Warner van Tuks het goed gelyk
    Paige bly weg asb.
    8 Botha - ophou spiere bou ons het jou mongrel nodig
    Spies - kry commitment
    vd Walt - hard en vining
    H Liebenberg - jonk baie potensiaal
    7 du Plessis - nie nr 4 slot nie - nie enforcer nie
    JKirsten
    WLiebenberg - sy aansluiting en ondersteuning is sy sterk punte
    6 Lappies
    RSteenkamp
    RSmit
    Stegman - tree of 2 te stadig
    5 Van Rensburg - 2de Matfield wat lynstaan organisering en lees aanbetref
    Jdu Plessis - weet net nie of hy 'n organiseerder is nie
    Hatting
    Orie
    4 Vd Merwe
    Herbst - maak hard skoon en tackle hard
    Willemse - ons mis sy kaliber die meeste
    3 Mvd Merwe
    van Wyk
    Koch/Louw - kan met my sweiss as ek hierdie ouens sien speel in 'n flippen WP trui
    2 Strauss
    CVisagie - sort sy lynstaan gooie uit
    Mbonambi - dieslefde sweiss storie
    JVisagie
    1 Greyling - skrum tegniek uitsort
    Naykane
    Mallet - is hy fiks?
    JSchoeman

  62. gravatar Matador says:
    @Paarlbul, sad but true........ jul kan ophou Wiaan Liebenberg se naam noem. Ludeke het hom reguit gesê hy rate hom nie en derhalwe het hy nie weer 'n kontrak gekry nie. En ons weet al Ludeke is te trots om 'n fout te erken en reg te maak. Duidelik was Wiaan nie een van sy favourites. Wiaan is beginselvas, 'n harde werker en goeie leier - glo steeds hy sal nog ver kom en die Bulle gaan nog spyt wees. Onthou ook net dat Hanro deeglik bewus is van hoe sy broer behandel is en spyte van baie beloftes - wonder of hy sal bly as sy kontrak hierdie jaar verval. Vir 'n losvoorspeler om op 19 die druk te hanteer en so te speel, sal hom beslis in aanvraag plaas.

  63. gravatar skippie says:
    Nitronic
    Nee my vriend jy het nog nooit vir JDP n kans gegee nie. JY KRAAK HOM af vandat hy by die BB speel en so ook van die ander spelers wat nie jou favourites is nie. En nee ek weet nie hoe lank Dries gaan uit wees nie. Die outjie sukkel regtig met beserings en dis jammer want hy is briljant. Ek se weer ons het Henning Gericke nodig om ons almal se ingesteldheid positief te kry. En n wenkultuur te skep. Hy bly in Pta.
  64. gravatar nitronic says:
    Nee wat as jy crap speel gaan jy kritiek kry. Ons kan net sowel dan se "Ross verdien meer kanse, maar nee die bloggers kraak hom af" JDP speel nou n geruime tydjie op senior vlak en het nou en dan goeie wedstryde ongelukkig meer average wedstryde as goeies.

    Miskien moet n paar ligblou legendes die manne vertel watse trots dit is om daai trui aan-te-trek. 90% van huidige spelers weet nei wat trots is nie.
  65. gravatar nitronic says:
    Ook skipster jy moan dat jy naar is vir al die negatiewiteit , maar waar is al jou positiewiteit? Waar is die feite en stats van die laaste 4 jaar wat 90% van die blog verkeerd bewys dat hulle instede van negatief eintlik positief moet wees en dat die Bulle in die regte rigting beweeg?
  66. gravatar skippie says:
    Ou Nitronic ek persoonlik is n absolute Sheepie fan. Hy groei en gaan jle almal nog stil speel. Watch maar. Ek het n voorstel. Nitronic ek het n ekstra kaarjie vir Sa se game. Ek nooi jou om die game saam my te kom kyk. Wat se jy????
  67. gravatar nitronic says:
    Skippie ek hoop hy speel my mond behoorlik toe.

    As jy vir my vlug kaartjie en hotel accommodation betaal is ek in my maat.
  68. gravatar jimmy says:
    Baie voorstelle maar bitter min oplossings.
  69. gravatar nitronic says:
    Hoezit jimmy?

    Ja baie min oplossings. die enigste oplossing op die oomblik lyk na om daai besem te vat en skoon te vee vanaf top management tot by sommige spelers en daar oor te begin en kyk hoe vinnig ons die 4-5 jaar weer kan inhaal.

    Ja sommige spelers IMO lack determination maar ek voel ook vir hulle want hulle skills set word absoluut uit hulle gecoach. Serfontein is n goeie voorbeeld, daar was sprake dat hy soos n Danie Gerber kan word en nou is hy maar net n storm ram.

    Ongelukkig is dit ni n quick fix nie, maar as hulle aanhou met die koppe in bestuur gaan ons vinnig vinnig Dries, Kriel's, Serfie, Pollard, Hanro en many more verloor.

    Natuurlik dra die transformasie ook by tot die soeke na groener weivelde
  70. gravatar bluebull says:
    Wonder why the team sheet is so late this week? Still waiting on JJ? Marcell?

    Maybe Frans want to suprise the Sharks and move Matfield to nr. 4 lock!
  71. gravatar nitronic says:
    bluebull i reckon he might just name him as outside centre ; )
  72. gravatar Pieter says:
    Go Bulls!!!!!!! Won this one I am backing you!!!!!!

    Bulls forever!!!!!!!!!
  73. gravatar nitronic says:
    Sharks Span

    Sharks: 15 SP Marais, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Waylon Murray, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Patrick Lambie, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Renaldo Bothma, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 4 Lubabalo Mtyanda, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis (captain), 1 Dale Chadwick.

    Replacements: 16 Kyle Cooper, 17 Thomas du Toit, 18 Lourens Adriaanse, 19 Marco Wentzel, 20 Jean Deysel, 21 Conrad Hoffmann, 22 Fred Zeilinga/Lionel Cronje, 23 Jack Wilson


    Goeie lostrio en vaste 5. Ek dink ons kan effens bly wees Thomas Du Toit begin nie. Dink Murray gaan probeer n punt bewys maar dink ook hy is n weak link. Ons gaan Reinach moet fyn dophou.
  74. gravatar bluebull says:
    Jimmy

    last week you said the Bulls are slapgatte. Now you are calling on the supporters to come up with solutions...

    You sound like you're in dire straights too.

    Anyway


    Awesome pack. Victor is going to have his work cut out against Pieter Steph.

    Only weak link in this team is their nr. 13. But if they get momentum then even he will look like Sonny Bill.

    Cant see how the Bulls will beat this Sharks outfit on current form - read: low intensity, poor at breakdowns and set pieces, chosing players out of position and not really knowing who the captain is.

    The first thing the Bulls will have to overcome? Themselves! Dearly hope to see a change on the field.
  75. gravatar derkaiser3 says:
    Jimmy- Baie voorstelle maar bitter min oplossings

    After this weekend we will probably be 0 from 3 at home, so our super rugby will be over.

    Ludeke needs to resign or be fired on Sunday, sorry Monday.

    We can put Victor and Pote in charge on a temporary basis until the super rugby season is over and look for a suitable Director of rugby in the interim.

    Pretty good solution to me...
  76. gravatar nitronic says:
    Al wat ek nou wil weet is die bloggers wat kla oor die negatiewe bloggers, waar is julle voorstelle en oplossings. Ek vra nou vir n week lank bring vir my die positiewe stats wat wys 90% van die blog is verkeerd en onredelik.

    Ek is opsoek na die positiewe aspekte maar kry niks die laaste 4 jaar nie so asb as julle meer positiewe aspekte het bewys my verkeerd.
  77. gravatar Duane says:
    It is disappointing to see the Bulls play the way they do. I watch the Tuks game on Monday jeez and it made me think of the days when Bulls rugby were dominating other packs of forwards like when we had Anton Leonard and those guys. That is the Blue Bulls brand of rugby we are missing at the moment.

    It is so easy for teams like Stormers to play against the Bulls. Alistair Coetsee exactly knows what to expect. He just went out and picked a huge pack of forward to match us upfront and we can't do anything else.

    I thought much more of this team before the season started. My 2 biggest concerns are 1) the coach and 2) We need to give young talent more chance to play. You can't expect that experience will win everything. A team needs a balance of experience and young guys coming in with flair as Jesse Kriel did to balance out the predictability of your team.
  78. gravatar nitronic says:
    Duane agree but Alistair Coetzee did initially pick a pack to match us, but what happened their pack DESTROYED us. Defending was a breeze for them actually maybe easier than in training for them.

    ANother example is Mellet vs Jane. Where in you life do you see a wing (smaller wing, not even Savea) ran with a prop forward as if he isn't even there.
  79. gravatar Bullsrbest says:
    I would put Hougie at scrummie, Du Plessis at 8th man, start with Jacque Louis and put JJ on wing. That is what needs to change this weekend - oh and of course make Strauss Captain. It would also be good if FL doesn't start making changes to the team as soon as we start getting on the front foot. I am so tired of all this and guys I think you are right if we lose this one then that's it.
  80. gravatar nitronic says:
    BULLSRBEST i don't see Du Plessis as a 8. My reason is if you think Spies is slow behind a scrum J Dup might be slower..... then again we almost lose 90% of our scrums anyway so what the heck.
  81. gravatar nitronic says:
    Ag nee ah kom nou fransie wys vir ons wie die sharks gaan aandurf.

    Krap jy nog kop? Wag jy vir beseerdes? Trek jy nog name uit die hoed?
  82. gravatar Cornelius says:
    Ek sien op Supersport die Sharks kom hierna toe met n sterk span, Ludeke is bang daarom het hy nog nie die span aange kondig, hy weet die Sharks gaan ons trap saterdag

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